600 vs 1000

Cdw46

Member
Just a random thought... how would u guys handicap a 600 vs 1000 lap time at castrol raceway. My opinion is 1 second per lap. For example, a 1 21 on a 600 is an equal accomplishment to doing a 1 20 on a 1000
 

marmstro

EMRA Executive Member
Well, according to my data most 600`s are running lap times 12-15 seconds faster than me on my 1000.
Does that help?
 

Goatse

Active Member
My best time on my R6 in 2015 was 1:23.7 (and I raced that bike for 3 years).

My best time on my R1 in 2016 was 1:22.4 (this was my first year on the 1K).


I found it was easier to put down a faster time on the 1000cc. Even though the bike is a lot more work to ride, I found quicker times came more easily on the 1K.

Except for near the end of the day when conditioning came into play.... I was usually a mess in Superbike due to just flat out being exhausted. My quickest times on my 600 came later in the day and later in my races, and when I got tired on the 600 I could push through it and keep going faster. But on the 1000 I found it more difficult to do so, and I realized after this season that I need to be in much better shape if I want to be competitive on the liter bike.
 

S-african

Member
If you look at Nationals fastest times - Not qualifying! Race times!

1000's - J.Zsoke 1:17.999
1000's J.Christie 1:18.7
1000's K.Reidman 1:18.3

600's - K.Reidman 1:20.3
600's - J.Christie 1:20.6

I think 1.5-2.0max seconds - taking out as many variables as possible (Experience on bike, bike setup, quality of bike, etc)
 

AleksV

Member
The litre bike has an advantage at Castrol for sure, 1-2 seconds.
also, Christie did a 1:19.9 on his CBR600
 

S-african

Member
Yes, but that was qualifying (low tire pressure for added grip - only good for 1-2 laps) Still an amazing time though, take nothing away from that. But feel race times are more accurate and comparable.
The litre bike has an advantage at Castrol for sure, 1-2 seconds.
also, Christie did a 1:19.9 on his CBR600
 

SetUpSixRR

EMRA Executive Member
Yes, but that was qualifying (low tire pressure for added grip - only good for 1-2 laps) Still an amazing time though, take nothing away from that. But feel race times are more accurate and comparable.

Wasn't Szoke's 1:17.9 I'm qualifying as well?
 

S-african

Member
Nope!

Szoke 1:17.999 was Saturday Superbike race 1, lap 5
Qualifying was 1:17.714
Their laps actually quickly drop off from their fastest to mid 1:18, and then 1:19.

But still, their fastest - is FAST

Current EMRA times would put our number #1 plate holder (Mike Zottmann) on front row - 3rd place on grid!
 
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